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Heated arguments about Palestine w/Rolf Lindgren, Jeff Sawin and a Zionist caller

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Don’t know about you, but I’m sick of Israel killing and maiming Palestinian children with illegal weapons including DIME (dense inert metal explosives) as well as plain old bombs. According to the Electronic Intifada:
“DIME munitions were developed by the US Air Force in 2006 and have since been tested repeatedly on the people of Gaza, who have long served as involuntary lab rats for Israel’s weapons industry.

DIME bombs contain tungsten, a cancer-causing metal that helps to produce incredibly destructive blasts which slice through flesh and bone, often decapitating the lower limbs of people within the blast radius.”

So I’m venting on people who “just don’t get it” about Palestine.

First half: Arguing about Palestine with Rolf Lindgren, who defends Rand Paul’s genocidal anti-Palestine rhetoric as a clever campaign strategem.

Second half: Extract from my appearance as a guest on the Jeff Sawin show. Jeff is about as good as mainstream hosts get. Don’t miss my heated argument with a Zionist call-in!

2 Thoughts to “Heated arguments about Palestine w/Rolf Lindgren, Jeff Sawin and a Zionist caller”

  1. Anonymous

    I was truly incensed by the caller and his callous and deceptive attitude (as I always am!~). Gad, these types make me mad. They're so damned dense … they have to keep "shouting" or talking over their discussionists … because they're so utterly unreasonable. (Rolf Lindgren isn't any better either, actually).

    What I wanted to mention to you though, in case you've never picked up on it … is that right around 1948, the Arabs declared war on Israel. The Jews have been talking about it ever since: "THEY declared war on US!! We are still in a state of war. It was never undeclared."

    Now, it's true that a bunch of the surrounding Arab countries declared a joint war on Israel at the time but it fizzled out almost immediately and the poor freedom fighters inside of Palestine were left twisting in the wind.

    Why did it fizzle so fast?

    Well, I can't find this information today on the internet but I remember reading about it years ago … and finally got the answer to that question, which had always bothered me.

    The Arabs -up until 1918- had been under domination of the Turkish empire and didn't actually have title to the land(s) that they'd been tilling and living on for centuries.

    They sided up with Lawrence of Arabia to overthrow the Turks with the agreed promise that when they succeeded, Britain and France would give them their own lands and countries. Britain and France double-crossed them.

    However, there were SOME of the regions that went about setting up their own autonomy. I think Syria and Jordon were two of them.

    But BECAUSE they were coming out of nowhere with virtually no experience or funds, they borrowed heavily from the Rosthchild bankers to finance their development.

    When they declared their joint war on Israel, the Rosthchilds threatened to pull their financing and call in their loans. THAT is what suddenly made these Arab coalition forces vaporize and never show up for the great battle.

    So even though there WAS this joint declaration of war, it never really materialized except for a bit of internal resistance fighting.

    But the Jews have been citing that declaration forever after.

    You know what really gets me about religious groups and idealistic groups is their smug belief in their own superiority to other humans. I don't dislike Jewish people but I really hate the Jewish attitude. It's all about superiority as a (whatsit? Not race, not religion but a fraternity) that is somehow entitled to much more than any other outsiders. Anything goes … lies, deceptions, cheating, stealing, murdering etc. … because they believe themselves entitled due to their superiority.

    If I was a Jew, I'd immediately renounce my membership and become a regular human being. I'd be ashamed to call myself a Jew, to be quite honest.

  2. Anonymous

    I thought you did a tremendous job with that Zionist caller, Kevin. You're ability to keep your cool and just keep hammering forward is -I think- pretty enviable. I wish I had that kind of self control. Brings tears to my eyes.

    There was a Palestinian protest here in Calgary (which I was unaware of until I talked to a young friend this morning).

    Looks like the Zionist supporters got heavily outnumbered!

    This kid didn't have a clue what was going on. He just figured that the guys with the green and white flag were looking like the good guys, LOL. I had to explain the Palestinian situation to him.

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