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CIA whistleblowers Giraldi & Goodman: Torture is killing America!

Broadcast December 19th, 10-11:00 a.m. Central (1500 GMT) on, archived here. Note: subscribers can listen to shows on-demand before they are broadcast – and also get free downloads! If you are a subscriber, just log in to the members area of and go to the “Private Blog” to get early access to the shows. 

First half hour: Former CIA officer Philip Giraldi, Executive Director of the Council for the National Interest, says the Senate torture report is “only the tip of the iceberg.” It relies entirely on government documents – and guess what? No government official, least of all in the CIA or military black ops community, is likely to put the really bad stuff on official paper. A real torture investigation would have mandated thorough debriefings – under oath – of everyone involved in torture, whether victim or perpetrator. Yet the Senate did not even interview anyone informally, much less under oath. Clearly the torture report is a whitewash, and the horrible crimes it documents are nothing compared to the vastly worse crimes it is covering up…including the use of prolonged torture to brainwash innocent patsies into confessing to crimes they did not commit, such as the 9/11 neocon coup d’état.

We also discuss Philip Giraldi’s brand-new article “Promoting the Apocalypse: You’ll Be Dead Before You Know It.

Melvin Goodman

Second half hour: Former CIA analyst Melvin Goodman, senior fellow at the Center for International Policy and professor of government at Johns Hopkins University, discusses his article The CIA’s Disgrace: Inside the Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Torture.  He is the author of several books including the forthcoming The Path to Dissent: A Whistleblower at the CIA.

At the end of the interview we exchange divergent views on 9/11-anthrax, and Mel promises to read Graeme MacQueen’s book The Anthrax Deception, which Graeme has agreed to send him.

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