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Elias Davidsson debates Joshua Blakeney: Is Veterans Today wrong about Zionism-9/11 connection?

Elias Davidsson and Joshua Blakeney  are two of my favorite 9/11 researcher-activists. They recently copied me on this email exchange, which seems timely, since I just joined the staff at Veterans Today.

Joshua and other Veterans Today writers will join me this week on Truth Jihad Radio; I have invited Elias as well, and hope to have him as a guest next week.

Dear Josh,

Is it true that you cooperate with Veterans Today?  If so, I wish to warn you that Veterans Today are most probably a covert operation aimed at destroying the 9/11 movement by peddling the “Israel did it” idea.   If I were among the real masterminds of 9/11 within the US, I would act like the German elite acted in 1933: It delegated to the Nazis the task to deceive the German working class, who was supporting a socialist revolution, and deflect its opposition against Jews.  It succeeded by this sleight-of-hand to eliminate the “socialist threat”.  Today, the US elite – trying to saving its skin as the 9/11 truth movement is mounting – is preparing a similar trick: Blaming Israel, or the Jews, to have masterminded 9/11 or bamboozled Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld into ordering the crime.  The idea is as absurd as it is unproven.  But it can be promoted with lots of money, lots and lots of money. Don’t lend your voice to such deception.

Israel, like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, may have been co-opted by the US to help execute 9/11.   No Israel, even the most rabid Zionist, would endanger the existence of the Jewish state by masterminding a surprise attack on the US.  It would be the most mad action any good Zionist would do. And believe me, I am as anti-Zionist as they go and know that the Zionists are capable of great crimes.  But, again, their crimes are rational.

If you, however, insist of cooperating with Veterans Today or espouse the above ideas, I will have to consider you as someone dedicated to destroy our movement and to serve US imperialism.

With hope,

Elias

Dear Elias,

Thank you for your email. You constantly refer to something called “the US” which you distinguish from Israel and/or Zionists. I prefer to recognize that within the US-based ruling class there are different factions. What Professor James Petras (also a Marxist) calls the Zionist Power Configuration represents one faction whose Middle East policies often conflict with those of the traditional US imperialist faction which serves primarily Big Oil. The US empire-building faction of the ruling class traditionally pursued a policy of co-opting Arab strongmen in the Middle East such as Israel’s number one foe Saddam Hussein (who then fired scud missiles at Israel in 1991 and who supported the Palestinians). US empire builders likes Brzezinski have denounced the Zionist faction of the bourgeoisie which has promoted destabilization of the Middle East and the carving up of the Middle East into small ethno-religious statelets (the “Lebanonisation” of the Middle East) so Israel can retain regional hegemony. Brzezinski-types want to build alliances with Iran and continue empowering Saudi Arabia (ever wonder why 9/11 was blamed on Saudis which would have been irrational if 9/11 was done by those representing Big Oil?).

Destabilizing the Middle East post-9/11 has been bad for oil markets. In short, Big Oil needs stability and Israel needs instability and civil war in the Middle East (so the Arabs are fighting Arabs). Whereas in WWII the traditional Anglo-American-German (WASP) faction of the ruling class trumped the nascent Zionist faction of the bourgeoisie destroying Jewish elites and assimilationist Communist Jews alike, 9/11 ushered in the period Petras calls “the globalization of Zionist power.” The global American Empire has lost control of the Middle East to local elites in Israel, and their supporters in the US elite, just as the global British Empire lost the Thirteen Colonies or South Africa to local “God’s chosen people” elites who didn’t like taking orders from London. Tel Aviv doesn’t like taking orders from Washington and so has taken over US Middle East policy.

Cheney and Rumsfeld weren’t “bamboozled”. As redundant Cold Warriors they saw an opportunity to revive their careers and to make some money. The Zionists provided them with an opportunity they couldn’t refuse. Cheney didn’t represent Big Oil. Halliburton is not an oil company. It rebuilds oil infrastructure. The Zionists smashing up Iraq was good for Cheney and Halliburton who got contracts to rebuild its infrastructure.

I like your Marxist analysis but you’re misdiagonosing the problem by blaming 9/11 and 9/11 wars on the wrong faction of the elite.

As for VT – read my columns. They are my opinions. I speak for myself. I am not responsible for what others write.

Best Wishes,

Joshua

3 Thoughts to “Elias Davidsson debates Joshua Blakeney: Is Veterans Today wrong about Zionism-9/11 connection?”

  1. Anonymous

    Dr Barrett
    You havent answered my question. Since no plane hit the Octogon or Pissylvania, what became of those two flights?
    Do you acknowledge that two airliners illegally entered two tall office buildings in lower Manhattan, or lower Womanhattan? If not, what hit these structures? Ive seen a video that shows what appears to be a large
    aircraft being swallowed up by an even larger
    building. Is this a fake? If so what became of those flights and the warm fuzzy bodies that were in them? If you cant answer this, then your credibility shrinks to the size of an ant's ass.
    In another century people like you who assert heretical doctrines were invited to a barbecue where the main course was themselves. I have heard this is making a comeback. I am looking into it, and your name will be prominent in the list of invitees.
    I am also looking into the anus, and your name can be found there as well.
    If you disagree that the earth is flat, youve got to propose another shape. If its round, if its a cone or an ellipse or a cube or a pyramid or some other polygon, youve got to pick one and state your evidence. Otherwise UW may have done the right thing to arrange for you to be a "hard to find man on campus."
    I agree with Hannity. You are a Conspiracy
    Nut. You must be taken out before you poison more young minds.
    If some stranger offers you a cigar, make
    sure no bystanders are around before you light it. You dont want to expose them to secondhand smoke, do you?
    I may be changing my name soon, but I havent decided on one yet. So for now, just
    call me Al.

    Very Truly Yours,

    Al Kaida

  2. Anonymous

    What became of the two flights? Funny you should ask. Bill O' Reilly asked the same question. So I'll tell you what I told him:

    Both flights disappeared straight up your ass. The passengers have survived by drinking digestive fluids, breathing farts, and eating half-digested fecal matter, waiting for a Navy Seal SWAT team to fly helicopters in there and rescue them.

    And don't try to tell me the hole isn't big enough. That is certainly true of the hole in the Pentagon and the hole in the ground in Shanksville. But you are widely known as the biggest asshole in the Western hemisphere, and I have no doubt that ten 757s could easily fit in there sideways.

    Best,

    Dr. B

  3. Anonymous

    " their crimes are rational. "

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