FFWN: Genocide Is Not an Olympic Sport (with Cat McGuire)

4 Thoughts to “FFWN: Genocide Is Not an Olympic Sport (with Cat McGuire)”

1. Tina Kimmel, PhD, MSW, MPH

   August 4, 2024 at 12:33 am

   Great show, as usual!

   I want to comment on the Algerian women’s boxing medal-winner, Imane Khelif. I am in complete agreement that “her” competing … and winning… is a sign of the end of civilization. However this case is slightly more interesting and complicated than you discussed.

   “She” was disqualified a few years ago by the International BOXING Association (IBA) for failing their gender test. However, for various reasons, the International OLYMPIC Committee (IOC) disregarded the finding of the other association, and allowed Khelif to compete as a woman.

   At https://en.as.com/olympic_games/why-was-imane-khelif-allowed-to-compete-at-the-olympics-n/, they say “The [IBA] test revealed elevated levels of testosterone, leading to questions about her eligibility to compete in the women’s category. This controversy sparked a heated debate within the sports community, but there is no indication that she is a trans athlete other than a woman with a medical condition.” and “She was born as a female but has a disorder of sex development (DSD) which may give her XY chromosomes and testosterone levels similar to a male athlete.”

   This is the textbook description of someone who, unfortunately, has the 5-ARD (5α-Reductase deficiency) genetic condition (such as the earlier Olympian Caster Semenya, and the fictional character in MiddleSex.) These folks ARE XY MALES, but whose body did not make the sort of proto-testerone in utero that causes a developing infant to look like a male at birth. Thus, they generally look like unusual girls at birth, and are often given girls’ identities.

   BUT then at puberty, they DO develop their normal ADULT testosterone, and secondary male characteristics such as muscle strength. (Colorfully, this condition is called güevedoces, “balls at 12” in the Dominican Republic.) This can cause social discomfort as these guys adjust to a new identity.

   Worldwide, there are relatively few situations where it is a benefit to hang on to the (infertile) female identity… BUT COMPETING IN WOMEN’S SPORTS is one. Especially where there is a lot of money involved, there are going to be unfortunate pressures to lie. In my opinion, Khelif is not strictly transgender, but close, in sticking with the incaccurate claim to being a woman.

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   1. Cat

      August 4, 2024 at 5:03 am

      FYI – I posted your response over on the Rumble version of this show.
      https://rumble.com/v59koay-genocide-is-not-an-olympic-sport-ffwn-with-cat-mcguire.html

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   2. Kevin Barrett

      August 4, 2024 at 3:05 pm

      Thank you for clarifying that, Tina.

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2. Cat

   August 4, 2024 at 4:57 am

   Thank you Tina for your very informed response. This is what I think Kevin was getting at. For me, though, the bottom line is not how you identify, what are your pronouns, what top or bottom surgery you’ve had, but purely solely What are your chromosomes? XX or XY?
   Although you supply interesting alternative possibilities, I’m sticking with my yardstick because it also practically makes more sense as in: if it looks like a duck, talks like a duck, walks like a duck — it’s a duck!

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